nancy pelosi was saying yesterday that she would welcome a number that both sides could start working toward and some republicans also say that. do you think there is any hope that maybe by just november, the end of november, there could be consensus on, okay. here's the top line where we're going to write the bill to. do you think that is possible? >> i don't want to minimize the difficulty ahead but i definitely think and get the impression from everything that both sides have said post election that there is some hope here in part. and greater hope for an agreement in the shorter term. there will be a lot of work that would have to be done next year to fill in the details but more of a chance of a deal now since you have the same cast of characters back at the table than you would have if mr. romney would have been elected. they know each other. they've talked about these issues before. they've already winoed down the issues. >> fascinating. if that becomes true. we'll talk more and get other opinions about this. first we have a trivia time. since 1860 how many republican and democ